4K – The Industrious Squirrel https://blog.chadweisshaar.com Tue, 30 Jan 2018 17:01:35 +0000 en-US hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.8.3 https://blog.chadweisshaar.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/favicon.png 4K – The Industrious Squirrel https://blog.chadweisshaar.com 32 32 4K Touch Table project https://blog.chadweisshaar.com/2018/01/30/4k-touch-table-project/ https://blog.chadweisshaar.com/2018/01/30/4k-touch-table-project/#comments Tue, 30 Jan 2018 17:01:35 +0000 http://gator3305.temp.domains/~cweissha/blog/?p=1429 Continue reading "4K Touch Table project"]]> We built a new touch table last year. We had three main goals with this project:

  1. A larger table to give players a bit more room – especially for our 7+ player games.
  2. A 4K screen to make our game’s graphics look better.
  3. A table that is easy to disassemble and transport.

This project was quite a bit harder and took much longer than we had anticipated, but it is finally done!

Hardware

Our previous table was 46″ and we decided that the new table would be 55″ to give players more room, but not make the table so large that you couldn’t reach the center from the sides.

A touch table has four main parts:

  • Enclosure (the physical table frame)
  • TV
  • Computer
  • IR touch frame

Enclosure

The enclosure holds everything together and provides a table for everyone to sit around. We wanted an enclosure that was easy to take apart and looked like a piece of furniture. When we were at PAX with MesaMundi, they had flat-pack tables that met these goals and provided inspiration for our design.

Bill put together a design and model for our table and we hired a local craftsman to build it. They made a CAD design of the table and used a CNC machine to cut particle board into the correct shapes.

We sanded and lacquered the pieces.

Ribs support the TV and hold the computer off the floor.

When taken apart, the pieces don’t take up much space:

TV

The TV that we chose is a Sony X700D. It is a 4K LED TV. While there are a lot of 4K 55″ TVs on the market, but we were looking for one that had a very shallow bezel, could display text well and had a good viewing angle. The TV for our first touch frame was ideal because it had no bezel and gorilla glass. Gorilla glass isn’t an option anymore (which makes sense as most people never touch the screen) and bezeless TVs were much more expensive.

Unfortunately, the thin bezel made the IR touch less responsive. Since the touch is picked up by the frame above the TV instead of by the screen itself, the closer the frame is to the screen the better. When people’s fingers approached the screen at an angle, the touch would register in the wrong spot. It was also very difficult to tap quickly. People would tap the screen, but if their finger didn’t rise far enough to clear the IR frame it wouldn’t register the tap.

Fortunately we were able to remove the bezel from the TV. Without the bezel, the LCD isn’t attached to the TV at the edges, but that isn’t a problem since it is laying flat.

Computer

The computer was probably the easiest part of this project. We went with a micro ATX form factor which is a small desktop computer. The computer didn’t need to have a lot of CPU power or memory so we used a two core Intel G4560 CPU and 8GB memory. We did get a fast SSD so that games would load quicker, and a NVIDIA 1060 video card to run the games in 4K. We originally tried to use an old NVIDIA 660. It was fast enough, but the HDMI connection on the card didn’t have enough bandwidth and the reds looked blocky:

Reds look blocky due to 4:2:2 color compression.

IR Touch Frame

Our previous touch frame was a PQ Labs G4. We’ve been very happy with it, so we bought the latest version of the PQ Labs frame, a G5 12 touch, for the new system. Unfortunately we had a very hard time getting it working correctly. It seemed to work fine when we tested it on our kitchen table, but when we put it on the TV we would get lots of extra “ghost” touches. The company that makes the frame has good support and they used a remote desktop app to log into our computer and calibrate the frame. This helped, but didn’t completely eliminate the problems. We continued working with them and they were eventually able to provide a frame configuration file that worked for our system.

They speculated that the problem was caused by not using a piece of glass under the frame. They may be correct, but our old setup didn’t use a piece of glass either.

Summary

Here is our final parts list and prices:

  • TV – Sony 55” 4K X700D…………………………………………………………………….. $870
  • Touch Frame – PQ Labs G5, 12 touch IR……………………………………………… $540
  • Enclosure – Flatpack………………………………………………………………………….. $1080
  • Computer……………………………………………………………………………………………… $665
    • Intel G4560 3.5GHz 2 core CPU…………………………………………………………. $79
    • MSI B250M motherboard………………………………………………………………….. $65
    • 2x4GB DDR4 2133 memory……………………………………………………………….. $70
    • NVIDIA 1060 GTX……………………………………………………………………………… $125
    • Samsung 960 EVO 250GB M.2 SSD………………………………………………….. $128
    • Windows 10 Home…………………………………………………………………………….. $90
    • Micro ATX case, keyboard, Power supply, WiFi, cables………………….. $107
  • Total………………………………………………………………………………………….. $3155

Resolution – HD vs 4K

One of the challenges of converting boardgames for play on the touch table is not having enough space to display all the pieces. To fit everything that needs to be displayed onto the screen, I end up making the pieces and text smaller. These small pieces can end up looking a bit fuzzy and/or hard to read on a standard HD screen.

Here are some examples of the difference between what a game looks like on an HD screen versus a 4K screen. (click to see full size – HD on left or bottom)

We still plan to make future games playable in HD. It will be tempting to use all the extra space to put more onto the screen, but we’d like to still support our old touch table, and having the constraint of limited space can lead to better designs.

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Review: Acer B286HK 4K Monitor https://blog.chadweisshaar.com/2016/07/20/review-acer-b286hk-4k-monitor/ https://blog.chadweisshaar.com/2016/07/20/review-acer-b286hk-4k-monitor/#respond Wed, 20 Jul 2016 16:24:00 +0000 http://gator3305.temp.domains/~cweissha/blog/?p=951 Continue reading "Review: Acer B286HK 4K Monitor"]]> I bought a 4K monitor almost a year and a half ago. The monitor is still being made and sells for $380. I have really enjoyed it and have decided to write up my experiences with 4K.

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Desktop

I bought the monitor with programming in mind, and it has been great for that task. I can have a high resolution (1920×2160) Unity window on the left side of the screen and the same amount of space for editing code or graphics on the right. My second monitor is 1920×1200 and shows the game/play screen.

4kScreen

I’m running Windows 10 and use the virtual desktop feature so that I can leave all the programming windows up while keeping web-browsers, email, quicken, Netflix, etc on a separate virtual desktop.

Text Size

When I first looked at the monitor in the store, I was worried about the tiny text on icons and in the windows file explorer. I first tried the scaling feature to increase the size of all text. That seemed to make text in applications look over-sized; so for the first few months I used Window’s personalization settings to change the font size of text on icons, title bars, and tooltips. When I upgraded to Windows 10, those settings no longer worked (they work again now) so I got used to having small text. It doesn’t bother me anymore, and now I recommend not using any special settings and getting used to the smaller text.

Gaming

When I bought the monitor, I didn’t expect to be able to play games at 4K and assumed that I’d play on my old monitor or at a lower resolution on the 4K monitor. I have a three year old Nvidia 660 GTX video card and had read that even the latest 980 GTX couldn’t really handle 4K gaming.

I’ve been pleasantly surprised how well I’ve been able to play games. Over the last 18 months I’ve played:

  • Doom (demo)
  • Endless Legend
  • Endless Space
  • Human Resource Machine
  • TIS-100
  • Offworld Trading Company
  • Anno 2070
  • Banished
  • Space Run
  • Torchlight 2
  • Skyrim
  • Borderlands 2

Most of these games are old and/or not very graphically taxing. With the exception of Doom, Offworld Trading Company, Anno 2070 and Borderlands 2, I’ve been able to play at 4K with most settings turned up. If a game runs slow, anti-aliasing can be turned off without much impact since the resolution is already so high.

Doom was really the only game where I couldn’t play above 1920×1080. It is also the only modern AAA title in the list. So if you are playing older and/or indie games, you can certainly play at 4K even with a mid-level video card.

The hardware and gaming press seem convinced that (like VR) 4K is only for the rich. While the monitors are not cheap, you are getting four times the number of pixels, so the price per pixel is actually lower than a standard 1920×1080 monitor. If you aren’t playing the latest first person games, you don’t need to buy a top of the line video card either.

Just today I read the tomshardware.com review of the new Nvidia 1060 where they concluded that anything above 2560×1440 wasn’t possible. They are correct if you’re trying to play the latest games at the best settings. But for a huge swath of the games that are available, a 1060 would do just fine at 4K.

Hardware requirements

To use a 4K monitor, you do need to have a video card with a Display Port 1.2 or better connection. You can technically do 4K over HDMI, but it is at 30 Hz which is extremely hard on the eyes.

I don’t know if the modern onboard video solutions from Intel would work for 4K. You may have to buy at least a low-end video card.

Conclusion

I strongly recommend a 4K monitor to anyone who has (or wants to have) more than one 1920×1080 monitor. It is like switching from spinning disks to an SSD: I’d never go back to a small monitor, and when I replace my second monitor it will be with another 4K.

Pros

  • Huge amount of screen real-estate. Like having four monitors in one. Great for programming and any other task that needs multiple applications.
  • No special drivers or setting needed.
  • Low price/pixel

Cons

  • Small text size. Maybe not for the far-sighted. (Or use the Windows scaling)
  • You probably need a graphics card, and you certainly need a Display port 1.2 connection.
  • Easy to waste space with over-sized windows and too much white space.
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